I recently read a heart wrenching and eloquent article about a monkey boiled alive. I have no other words, just read the article and contemplate “mankind”.
Monkey Boiled Alive
November 13, 2008 at 8:25 pm (Animal Rights, Animals)
Tags: Animals, Labs, Monkey
Important Election Information
November 2, 2008 at 2:21 am (Animal Rights, Animals)
Tags: Ballot Measures, Earl Garrison, Elections, Humane Society, Joe Knollenberg
Well obviously I won’t be voting for McCain/Palincome Tuesday, so why talk about it further? I wanted to share some information that I obtained about some important ballot measures and one unbelievably evil Congressman that wants reelection.
Joe Knollenbergof Michigan is a dreadful person, and no I don’t need to meet him to know that it is true. Just look at his voting record regarding our fellow creatures of this planet. If you live in Michigan, please share this outrage and DO NOT VOTE for Joe Knollenberg! I have no doubt he could be very good pals with Senator Earl Garrison(although I dare say even he may not be anywhere near as bad a person as Knollenberg). Let’s see, Knollenberg is pro-horse slaughter, pro-polar bear hunting (well slaughter is more like it), pro-trapping, and pro-kill anything you can get your hands on. On second thought Michigan voters, if Knollenberg loses watch out!
Also, check out SuperVegan and The Humane Society for lists of important ballots! If you live in those states please vote pro-animal!
From the Humane Society:
In August 2008, Alaskans had the opportunity to vote for a third time to ban the aerial killing of wolves. This inhumane and unsporting practice involves shooting wolves from the air or chasing them down to the point of exhaustion and landing to shoot them point blank. Unfortunately, the measure was defeated by a vote of 44 to 56 percent due to deceptive propaganda and an unlawful state-funded campaign. Now more than ever, it is critical for Congress to pass the Protect America’s Wildlife (PAW) Act to prevent the shooting of wolves and other wildlife nationwide.
In North Dakota, HSUS members and supporters helped to gather signatures to place a measure on the ballot to halt the captive shooting of wildlife behind escape proof fences. Unfortunately the measure was not approved, but we will continue working to end the egregious practice of captive hunting.
All I have to say is WTF is wrong with these people? Not only do they want blood spilled they don’t give a crap how it is spilled? Absolutely no humanity in those voting against the animals involved in those ballots above, absolutely void of any compassion. Period.
Oklahoma Senator Pushes “Hunters Bill of Rights”
October 28, 2008 at 12:32 am (Animal Rights, Animals)
Tags: Activists, Animal Rights, Fishing, Hunters Bill of Rights, Hunting, Oklahoma
Democratic Senator Earl Garrison of Oklahoma is pushing for a Hunters Bill of Rights that would help “protect” hunters and fishermen from animal rights activists. Apparently he is fearful that animal rights activists will intrude upon “Oklahoma traditions” and take advantage of the current wording of the state’s constitution. Some “sound” bites from Mr. Garrison himself follow, enjoy!
“We’re trying to put in our constitution the right for Oklahomans to hunt, fish and trap like we always have,” he said. “This will protect our children and grandchildren’s ability to hunt and fish like we always have in Oklahoma. I think it’s a good thing because most hunters and fishers are conservationists first.”
How many fishermen and hunters do you know that are big on conservation? Sure they may use it as an excuse to do what they enjoy, aka murder innocent creatures who have no means of fighting back, but they are not doing it for true conservation. Plus in my book a conservationalist would be concerned about the conservation of the earth in general….which would imply recycling, vegetarianism, bike riding/mass transit use and a plethora of other tiny acts to protect the planet. I dare say most hunters/fishermen do not fall into this category (and definitely not the vegetarian category).
“For most Oklahomans it’s a heritage we can pass on to our children and grandchildren,” he said. “Hunters are some of the most sensitive people in the world; they understand the value of passing this on to the next generations.”
Hunters are some of the most sensitive people in the world? What planet does this guy live on? Are you kidding me?!? Sensitive? Perhaps sensitive to their own needs and wants but it ends there. Also, why do they feel the need to pass down the “value” of death and violence towards other creatures on this planet? Can you answer that question, oh sensitive one?
The face of a sensitive conservationalist hunter/fisherman
“And you never know when extremist groups might come in and say this is not a good thing,” he said. “I think there is some fear that some groups will make it against the law to even hunt and fish because they think it’s cruel to animals.”
What a wonderful world it would be if we animal rights activists could just come in and say ” No hunting! No fishing!” and have it be done. I want to live in that world. Unfortunately that is beyond impossible at this stage of the animal rights movement. Not nearly enough people care about other animals enough to deem hunting and fishing be eliminated. It is hard enough to get people to stop wearing fur or to stop testing on animals for useless products, like Botox. Oh and Garrison, it IS a bad thing. Get over your need for weekend bloodbaths already.
“Animals have to be harvested,” he said. “And if you have good management, and that’s what the Oklahoma Wildlife Commission does, it’s important that you have management because if you don’t, you get overpopulation, and the animals get smaller and there’s too much inbreeding.”
Harvested? HARVESTED? Now that doesn’t sound like a sensitive conservationalist said that to me. Well in that one phrase Mr. Garrison makes it clear how he feels about animals: they are mere commodities. Is that sensitive? I think not. Also, the conservationalist in him does acknowledge a potential increase in population due to the lack of hunting, however he deems this unwanted because the animals would be smaller, aka less attractive on the mantle I suppose. *Note: Whereas the decrease or elimination of hunting would cause some animal populations to increase, nature would even out if predator/prey numbers were able to attain the correct balance. This has been a major problem since hunting/fishing/general killing/territory encroachment has increased. Prey species increase because predators are killed or do not have enough territory etc. How do you think the planet existed without hunting before humans existed/decided to kill other creatures? Hmm? Yeah, I think nature has a handle on what it needs to do.
Mutton Bustin’
October 25, 2008 at 1:47 am (Animal Rights, Animals)
Tags: Children, Colorado, Fairs, Mutton Bustin', Sheep, Speciesism
Mutton Bustin’, what is this you ask? Well let me tell you! Mutton Bustin’ is a “past-time” of farm children who enjoyed riding sheep for the hell of it. So one day, the owner of a restaurant in Pueblo, CO decided that it would be entertaining to bring it to state fairs around the country! Now having lived in Pueblo, CO I am not the least surprised that this brilliant idea came from that town. Sound like fun? Not for the sheep!
First of all, let me show you an example of this “Mutton Bustin”:
You can also see the video from the most recent CBS Evening Newswith Katie Couric, where it was showcased as an adorable activity. It also introduces you to Tommy Giodone, the one who began the touring of this sheep torturing.
First of all, the name clearly bothers me. Mutton Bustin’? Not even enough dignity given to the sheep to call it “Sheep Riding” or something to that ilk. No, they name it after MEAT that is cruelly ripped from their bodies. On top of that they include “bustin” for further insult.
If you watch the videos you will see small herds of sheep in tiny enclosures where they appear to not even be able to move. So not only do they get to be ridden by childen (who no doubt dig into them without mercy for fear of falling) over and over again, they also get to enjoy their “down” time in small, claustrophobic enclosures. As seen on the videos, all the poor sheep want to do is get this person off of their back and get to their sheep buddies at the end of the “run”.
“There’s something about a child and an animal that is just endearing to people. But at the same time they like to see a good wreck,” Tommy Giodone said.
Is the wreck he is referring to the life of the sheep or the child falling off the sheep? How ironic that children and animals are endearing….even if that means torturing the animal. Would riding a petrified, skittish dog be as enjoyable for people to watch? I doubt it, because most people are speciesist without realizing it (or caring that they are). How are the people who find this “endearing” or those allowing their children to participate raising their children? Clearly not to respect animals or other beings. Remember, how you act speaks much louder to children and all people than what you say. Allowing them to participate in this act speaks to speciesist ways.
Certainly no one would have blamed Riley if he just quit right then and joined a boy’s choir. But no, because there comes a point in every young person’s life, when a kid’s just gotta prove himself – to himself.
Oh yes, please young child, prove that you can ride a sheep for a second or two, even if it proves to the sheep that humans are miserable beings with no regard to other species (or often other humans).
Just for a note to all those who may read the article related to the CBS Evening News video and who don’t live in Colorado: the kid’s mother who won the belt buckle is anything but a “suburban soccer mom”……Pueblo West is FAR from suburban. Pueblo in and of itself is not even suburban, you have to be near an actual city for that!!! Okay, so that was a personal rant about one of the things in CO that bug me…people believing they know what city living is like…like living in PUEBLO, CO is anything like a city. AH!
So Mutton Bustin’, just another way humans find entertainment in the petrifying and torturing of animals. Just another grand ol’ day at the country fair!! Visit the founder’s website and let him know how you feel about Mutton Bustin’ (and while you’re there tell him his restaurant sucks….just for good measure). On a happier note, you will be glad to hear that he also offers human stupidity as an event! “Last Man Standing” competitions! At least in these both contestants CHOOSE to participate!
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
October 20, 2008 at 1:40 am (Animal Rights, Random)
Tags: Blogs, Election, Good Reads, Obama
Before and during my moving I lost track of many blogs I like to follow. However, that is what feeds are for! So over the weekend I managed to catch up on quite a few. I wanted to share some of the stories that stick out in my mind the most.
Sarah Palin’s husband, Todd Palin, thinks America’s core values are “hunting and fishing.”
Lindyloo over at Yeah, That “Vegan” Shit shared why she is vegan. It is from a couple years back but I think it is a very touching post and I agree with her quite a bit. Go and read it!
On a political note, [A] Funny Feminist informed us all of a video depicting McCain supporters who also were HUGE bigots. Prepare to be angered, watch the video, bang your fists, then VOTE come November 4th!!!
Elaine Vigneault shared the following videos recently: a senior citizen keying a hummer at a dealership (yes! that guy is alright with me!) and an absolutely ADORABLE video of otters holding paws (it will bring a smile to your face after that anti-Obama video, trust me….watch this after that video to help you cope).
Alex over at That Vegan Girl wrote a great piece, that not only will maybe expand your mind a bit but may also help you with those all too necessary “come backs” against those who try to defeat your anti-vivisection/AR values.
University of Pittsburgh Lab Tech Bitten
October 14, 2008 at 2:10 am (Animal Rights, Animals)
Tags: Animal Studies, Gates Foundation, Lab Animals, Labs, Primates, Torture, University of Pittsburgh
Give me a moment…..*Recovering from chills created by the woman in the photo*…..okay. This pleasant looking person was recently bitten by a monkey in a University of Pittsburgh lab. First of all, I wouldn’t be surprised if someone told me a normally very docile kitten attacked this woman simply because she gives off evil vibes. Second of all, the articles speaking of the “attack” are focusing on the lack of safety measures of course, rather than hitting the real issue on the head: monkeys and all other creatures should NOT be in a lab being tortured. Can anyone blame the monkey for lashing out? Would you not do the same if you were constantly poked and prodded meanwhile being forced to stay confined to a small space for the entirety of your life? I think anyone, any creature would.
The poor macaque that lashed out on this woman was named “Grabby” because he apparently was always grabbing anything within reach. Clearly “Grabby” was suffering mentally. “Grabby” along with his fellow imprisoned primates (at least 30 macaques) are being injected and tortured for the purpose of studying tuberculosis, dengue, influenza and avian flu. The macaques appear to be used mostly for the tuberculosis studies, so Boyle (the lab tech) was concerned about TB. Poor woman was concerned about contracting TB even though she readily supports the injecting of helpless creatures with that very ailment. I have absolutely no compassion for those contributing to the torture of these amazing creatures, whether they be what are considered lowly rabbits or human-like primates.
Apparently the University of Pittsburgh was given a $11.4 million to study tuberculosis by the Gates Foundation. Yes, Bill Gates. All the more reason for me to hate him, and I already did since Windows Vista is absolute crap! So contact the Gates Foundation and vent your frustrations! Be sure to let him know how crappy Vista is while you are at it too! (And to stop those piece of crap Mojave commercials, clearly tricking people into liking Vista is the only way they WILL like Vista!) You can also contact University of Pittsburgh by going to their contact page.
And before I go, here is a lovely tidbit by a U of Pitt professor:
“Why do we have to give drugs for six months to cure TB?” said JoAnne Flynn, professor of microbiology and molecular genetics at Pitt. “Why aren’t the drugs capable of killing TB in two weeks? That was Bill Gates’ question. It’s a great question and seems like such a basic question, but we don’t yet have an answer.”
Hmm, sounds to me like the reason these monkeys are being tortured are for impatience, not for more effective drugs. The current drugs (and I am no expert in TB) appear to work, just not in a time frame deemed proper by people. Clearly, the drugs on the market DO work, therefore implying that these drugs can be manipulated to make them more effective….a task that could be done in a petri dish, not in a defenseless monkey. Although I suppose some would argue the monkey is not defenseless due to the “damage” Grabby was able to do to that woman up there, but if any one of us were in his situation we all would have done the same or worse. I don’t know about you, but after reading that woman’s sob story about her inability to possibly work in her field anymore brings a tear to my eye….now there is one less person unable to torture lab animals! Good job Grabby! Bravo! Now we just need all the monkeys, rabbits, rats, mice, cats, dogs etc. to rebel and give their lab techs what is coming to them!
Farm Sanctuary Walk for Farm Animals
August 29, 2008 at 2:24 am (Animal Rights, Animals, Random)
Tags: Charity, Denver, Donations, Farm Sanctuary, Walk for Farm Animals
As you may have read by now on other blogs or directly from Farm Sanctuary, they are having their annual Walk for Farm Animals in a town near you (hopefully). The walks are scheduled around World Farm Animals Day, which is October 2nd. If you are interested in participating in a walk near you, you can find the participating cities here. Matt and I have signed up to walk on September 27th here in Denver and I am very excited! So often, vegan and animal rights events do not take place in Denver so I was a little worried when scanning the list of participating cities. Hopefully your city is participating too! The walks are generally 3 to 6 miles, and quite frankly I have NO idea how long the one in Denver is. Hopefully it is a nice long 6 miles as downtown Denver a very nice place to take a stroll….or a 6 mile walk 
.
Along with the Walk for Farm Animals to raise awareness for the billions of farm animals in need, there is also a fundraising event that each walk participant can partake in. I just happen to have set up a fundraising page with First Giving and I am hoping everyone who is able and willing, will donate to this great cause! Please visit my Farm Sanctuary Fundraising Page to donate to Farm Sanctuary. You can also click on the following logo that is located on the side of the blog at the very top:
As stated on the firstgiving website, my target is $500. I am hoping that this is a very low estimate since the animals need your help! Not only does Farm Sanctuary save animals that are tossed to the wayside from the factory farming industry (and other such situations) and save animals from slaughter, they ALSO respond to natural disasters in order to save helpless animals. For instance, just this summer Farm Sanctuary saved numerous pigs during the Midwest floods! All these animals need medical care, food and shelter and it does NOT come cheap. Please help this very worthy organization and give all you can, whether that be 1 dollar or 100 dollars, any amount is greatly appreciated! Thank you!
Cows Raised As “Food” Fed Junk Food
August 20, 2008 at 2:23 am (Animal Rights, Animals)
Tags: Animal Rights, Beef, Beef Recalls, Chocolate, Cows, E. coli, Ethanol, Ethanol Waste, Hersheys, Mars, Potato Chips
As per usual, I was reading my daily dose of vegan, animal rights and environmental news when I came across this article on The Daily Green. Apparently the geniuses behind the beef industry are feeding cows potato chips, waste from ethanol plants and chocolate factories. Huh? Yes, cows are being fed junk food. Would it not be fitting to then postulate that people who eat beef are also eating potato chips, waste from ethanol and chocolate waste, all of which were deemed not good enough for human consumption? As they say, you are what you eat.
Cows are grass eaters, not potato chip, chocolate or ethanol waste eaters. The absurdity of their diets has led to a vast increase in the number of E. coli in their guts. Could this possible rise over the decades have led to the greater number of recalls DUE to E. coli, just like the one earlier this month? The one in which Nebraska Beef, Ltd. based in Omaha, Nebraska had to recall about 1.2 million pounds of beef? Of this I have no doubt. But you also have to consider the great E. coli risk due to incompetent slaughterhouses (if there is such a thing as a competent one…rather oxymoronic), in which demand is high so work is quick and lousy. But in and of itself, the increased amount of E. coli in the animal being slaughtered would easily be a prime suspect for the root of contamination. But would anyone admit to this? Probably not, considering they would then have to admit that they are not only consuming something they shouldn’t, but also admit that they are feeding the cows what they shouldn’t eat either. Afterall, what is more important: feeding a cow what it actually eats or feeding it something that increases their fat factor? By all means, E. coli is only a minor problem considering the thought of slim cows *gasp*! No no, it is more important to risk over 1.2 million pounds of beef to be recalled (or approximately 2600 cows that died for absolutely no reason whatsoever…even from a meat eater’s viewpoint…so would that make it negative quantities of reason for death?).
So cows have not only been fingered for consumption, but also for being forced to eat crap. No, this would be worse than that, this would be the waste FROM crap. Apparently the increase of ethanol needs in this country has quite a bit to do with what cows eat. Corn prices are high, but apparently ethanol waste prices are low. So of course the cows get the waste. Not only that, farmers obtain waste from Hershey’s and Mars as well. Isn’t that grand? Cows get to eat chocolate considered not suitable for human consumption. But guess what? Humans are still consuming it each time they have beef. So no matter how “healthy” a meat eater THINKS they are (which they aren’t even if they don’t realize it), they are still consuming junk food. I find this a tad bit humorous…considering how terrible junk food is considered, yet beef is still found even on menus of Jenny Craig and and other idiotic diets. Of course I feel awful for the cows, as who knows what this crap they are feeding them is doing to their systems. Afterall, their lives are terrible enough.
Veganism and Animal Rights Vilified Yet Again
August 16, 2008 at 4:18 am (Animal Rights, Animals)
Tags: Animal Rights, Deaths, Murder, Omnivores, PETA, Vegan, Veganism
It seems as though people have found a new target to focus their aggressions on: vegans and/or animal rights supporters. Not only that, but these individuals have begun writing anti-animal rights books. Their “reasons” to vilify our beliefs are proposterous and unwarranted. Apparently believing in the lives of animals makes us inconceiveably evil and elite. How dare we think of others! The irony of this is that true animal rights supporters will just become more vigilant in the face of these people and perhaps even change their opinion of the human species.
What on earth am I talking about? I’m talking about this article on the National Review Online (*ahem* screams right-wing) by an idiot by the name of Wesley J. Smith. It appears that Smith doesn’t like vegans and animal rights supporters. His main reason for writing this article seems to be various antics of PETA. Did you know that PETA was the one and only animal rights group? Did you also know that they represented all of our beliefs? No? Well good thing Smith came along to help us realize this!
The driving foundation of this article is the response of PETA regarding Jessica Simpson wearing a t-shirt declaring that upstanding females consume the flesh of others. PETA’s response, which was unnecessary considering who is taking dietary advice from the likes of Jessica Simpson, was the usual meat consumption causes death and anguish declaration. True indeed, but yet another move by PETA that allows twits like Wesley J. Smith to accost our belief system.
It appears that those in the vegan and animal rights community are “hold(ing) a weak intellectual hand” when it comes to debating the issue of “meat is murder”. Did you know this? Because this was all news to me. It appears that we are not actually vegans in the true sense, since mice, rabbits, birds, snakes and other small creatures are killed by the cultivation of the land. It is true that those poor little guys probably do get killed by farm equipment daily, and for that I am sorry. But how is this fact a reason to attack vegans? Since we consume only vegetables, grains, fruits etc., we are apparently responsible for each and every death that occurs on the farms. Or at the very least we cannot claim we are eating a murder-free diet. But is that really true?
I see it this way: those in opposition to us have so little in their favor in terms of evidence for maintaining their heart-clogging, global warming enhancing, death mongering lifestyle that they now need to vilify us to make themselves feel better. It is becoming ever-more alarming how similar war mongers are to meat mongers. What’s that? Yes, you’re right. Most vegans probably do come from the left-wingers side. Good catch! (Oh but this is a whole ‘nother story indeed!)
So let me just break down the article of this special consultant to the Center of Bioethics and Culture (that gave me a good laugh).
Nor can they argue that field animals experience less-agonizing deaths from plant agriculture than food animals do from food-animal slaughtering. Field animals may flee in panic as the great rumbling harvest combines approach, only to be shredded to bits within their merciless blades; they may be burned to death when field leavings are burned; they may be poisoned by pesticides; they may die from predation when their plant cover has been removed.
Really? Are “food-animals” allowed the option to flee? Are they allowed the option to live in this field or that one? Are they allowed the option to eat what they want instead of being force-fed antibiotics and remains of their former relatives? I think not. I am sure that many animals do die in the harvesting process of modern-day grain etc. farming. But, Smith seems to deliver us a terrible image of animal after animal being killed by farm equipment at every turn. First of all, has this guy ever seen a farm actually harvested? Farm equipment doesn’t exactly move 90 MPH. On the other hand, have you seen a rabbit run? I’m quite certain that most animals that enter the fields leave the fields alive (except if captured by predator species). This cannot be said for any farm animal grown for food (except for those lucky few that are rescued by farm sanctuaries!). Have you ever known a mouse to NOT be afraid of a human nonetheless a gigantic machine? Most of the animals listed on Smith’s article are either skiddish by nature or very quick. In no way am I saying NO animal ever dies from the likes of farm equipment, I just suspect it is much lower than individuals on Smith’s side contend. Also, do animals no longer have the capability to smell? Do they not realize to run when a huge fire ball is headed their way? Generally animals killed in fire deaths are surrounded by fire with no escape. This would not often be the case in controlled burns on farms. Poisoned by pesticides? People poison animals in their homes and call it “pest control”, when are those people going to be attacked? Plus, humans are be continually poisoned by pesticides daily…its just a much slower process that is supported by pesticide companies and non-organic farmers. Lastly, animals dying from predation is the least of any animals problems these days. At least predation is a natural norm and necessary for a healthy ecosystem. Did anyone care to consider all the animals and entire species being wiped out by global warming (which factory farming of animals is the #1 contributor to)? Also, does it even matter to such people as this that most grain, soybeans etc. are raised for livestock feed? Eh? I feel absurd for even validating these reasons of Smith’s by repeating them here, but I wanted everyone to see the stupidity!
Moreover, even if the relative number of animals killed were the morally decisive issue, veganism might not be the most ethical solution. In 2001, S. L. Davis of the Department of Animal Sciences at Oregon State University, Corvallis, wrote a paper claiming that the diet most likely to result in the deaths of the fewest animals would be beef, lamb, and dairy — not vegan. Davis found a study that measured mouse population density per hectare in grain fields both before and after harvest and estimated a harvest casualty rate of ten mice per hectare. Then, he multiplied that figure by 120 million hectares of farmland in the U.S.; meaning that 1.2 billion mice would die each year in food production if America became a wholly vegan country.
Oh the insanity continues! First of all, S.L. Davis is an ass. I am officially ashamed of Oregon State University. I am increasingly disturbed by these individuals in the academic community, frequently in the animal sciences/biology departments completely vilifying animal rights and animals in general. I was under the impression that academia was supposed to be better informed and wise. All this makes me wonder how my former professors stand on these issues. I may be horrified to know! But I digress! Davis’ paper is ridiculous, plain and simple. First off, he is assuming that dietary habits regarding beef, lamb and dairy would stay exactly the same if people in this country no longer ate chicken, turkey and pork. Really? No one would eat more beef or lamb or milk or cheese? Wow. What a omnivorian utopia. Consider the more likely scenario: no chicken, turkey or pork would raise the consumption of beef etc. drastically, thereby completely negating Davis’ thesis. Second, if we are all supposed to be omnivorian, based on this paper, wouldn’t the very idea of current vegans and vegetarians now eating beef, lamb and dairy cause an increase as well? Wonder why Davis’ chose to just make it a beef, lamb and dairy diet? Because chickens would have thrown a gigantic loop into his logic, since more chickens are killed than the concocted number of mice in his theory. Secondly, his estimations regarding population density are fairy invalid as well. He does not take into account that the field equipment may have scared away individuals, natural predation and general mouse lifespan. But don’t take my word for it, here are the ridiculous notions straight from Davis”:
Accurate numbers of mortality aren’t available, but Tew and Macdonald (1993) reported that wood mouse population density in cereal fields dropped from 25/ha preharvest to less than 5/ha postharvest. This decrease was attributed to migration out of the field and to mortality. Therefore, it may be reasonable to estimate mortality of 10 animals/ha in conventional corn and soybean production.
So just for the hell of it, lets assume half of the missing mice are dead from human activity–even though we have no actual mortality numbers available and no decent former studies to prove it. Yeah, good science Davis’, you should be up for an award. And with this blatant assumption game on Davis’ part, anti-vegans/animal rights individuals are finding ammunition. Oh, their reasonings are flawless!!
Also from Davis’:
According to the USDA numbers quoted {…}, of the 8.4 billion animals killed each year for food in the US, 8 billion of those are poultry and only 41 million are ruminants (cows, calves, sheep, lambs). Even if the numbers of ruminants killed for food each year doubled to replace the 8 billion poultry, the total number of animals that would need to be killed under this alternative would still be fewer than in the vegan alternative.
I suppose that answers my previous statement regarding increase of beef etc. consumption, but double? So this country will go from consuming 8 BILLION chickens and 41 MILLION ruminants, to ONLY consuming at most 82 MILLION ruminants? Really? What on earth will all those flesh craving individuals do with 7.96 BILLION less creatures to eat? Seriously? The idea of only doubling is proposterous!!!
Further brilliancy from Smith:
Contending that meat eating is somehow murder while veganism is morally pristine because it doesn’t result in intentional animal deaths is factually false and self-delusional. No matter your diet, animals surely died that you might live.
I cannot believe oxygen is being wasted on idiots like this. How are vegans simply “contending” that meat is murder? Are animals NOT in fact raised for the sole reason of being killed for consumption? Isn’t intentional killing in fact murder? Did I miss something during my time on earth?? If us vegans are not “morally pristine” I would like to know what strict omnivores or carnivores are then. Morally vacant perhaps? I know two people who are morally vacant *ahem*.
Oh The Stupidity!
September 3, 2008 at 3:35 am (Animal Rights, Animals, Random)
Tags: Brainwashing, Comments, Cows, Idiots, Meat Eaters, Propaganda, Stupidity, Veganism, Vegans
Hello everyone! First of all, I’d like to announce that apparently my cupcake SUCKS cause I am losing pitifully. But oh well, at least I have cupcakes!!
I would LOVE to share this gem I received in my comments today….oh, it is quite fun-filled. Hope you get a good laugh from it as I did!
Apparently this is from someone who calls himself “NotADumbassWhoBelievesEverythingHeReads”. Oh yeah, it gets better! Now you knew from that name that he just HAD to be an idiot, but let him prove that himself!
Okay, I will let you absorb that comment for a bit. Take all the time you need! I actually was somewhat happy to receive this comment…hell, I was a little iffy on what to write about tonight but this gave me the perfect topic! Idiots! Yay! The never-ending topic that always brings me such agonizing joy to complain about. Now lets go through this, shall we? Side note: this was a comment left on my Cows Fed Junk Food piece.
First of all, even a great number of doctors are finally coming to the conclusion that meat is BAD for the body. How else would you explain the tremendous rate of high cholesterol, heart ailments, heart attacks, obesity etc etc.? And how would you explain that these ailments only generally arise in a “western” style diet? Asian countries who are becoming more “western” in diet or wealthy (and therefore able to afford meats etc., depending on how you wish to look at it) are finding their rates of these ailments increasing drastically. They have gone from nearly no such ailments in their societies to great numbers suffering from them. Oh, that must be from the tomato and lettuce ON the burger. Damn tomatoes, screwing all of us up! Second of all, I am anything BUT brainwashed. If anyone is brainwashed it is this fool who continues to swallow every ounce of propaganda given to him by the government and meat and dairy industries. Also, I don’t adhere to ANY bible. I personally don’t believe in the bible one iota. But that is another topic altogether. As for PETA, I don’t get much, if any, of my information from PETA actually. I find that I don’t often agree with PETA, but I do find it is a good source of information for people just starting to explore animal rights.
Hmm, how does this make my junk food point invalid in any way? Was there supposed to be a test showing the level of chocolate in their system? Because I really doubt they would go through the trouble of testing the meat for every iota of nutritional information since they won’t even test every cow for Mad Cow Disease (and other diseases). Hell, they don’t even test 5%, if even 1%.
Oh yes, and the artery clogging that is occurring DAILY brings me great joy. Here’s to your heart attack! May you enjoy it as much as your burgers
Ouch, he is trying to get Pro-lifers involved too! Wow, attacking vegans and pro-lifers (I’m sure some are one in the same). Sorry for the graphic image people, hope you weren’t eating lunch! Hmm, I dare say the mother of this uneducated, brainwashed idiot should have given a second thought to having him. Moving on though. Let’s see, do I care where my food comes from? Yes. Does a cow care where it comes from? Well I suppose a cow wouldn’t necessarily care where it came from, but I have a pretty good idea it would care WHAT it was. Cows are not scavengers, they do not eat anything and everything. They have preferences involving their diet (and their lives), or else they would be just like a vulture. So no, cows wouldn’t care where their GRASS came from, but they sure as hell probably care why they are forced to eat CHOCOLATE. Guaranteed: if a cow had a choice between fresh grass and ethanol waste, he is choosing the grass.
Yay for silly vegans and their long, silly, healthy lives! Oh and there are plenty of people who are far less intelligent that any cow you could find me. FAR LESS INTELLIGENT.
Wow, all this time I have been forced at gunpoint to eat my veggies! Holy crap, I must have been forced to make it too! Damn, someone really has some control over me. Oh if only I could think for myself. IF ONLY!
Hey, this guy can talk to cows! Holy crap, I’m in awe of his cow communication. He must communicate with one just about at his level too or else I’m sure he would have heard SOME sort of complaint. At the very least in the realm of “please don’t slaughter me”. Hmm, maybe I have had it wrong all this time. Wow, he really has opened my eyes. Cows speaking English (I assume it isn’t Russian or Spanish since this guy communicates in English), what will do next?
Cows Can Speak English!!
Such sweet parting words, brings a tear to my eye. *sniffle* I think I am in love! A cow whisperer and poet to boot! Oh, be still my heart!
Where to begin…WHERE to begin.
It really is funny that we “people” make him sad for the human race. Funny because I find that people who have their heads stuck up their asses are the ones who are ruining the human race. Especially when they reproduce and spread the bigotry, stupidity and overall angry traits. Did you happen to notice that all of a sudden I CHOOSE to eat what I do? Wow, what a transition. I just had a gun pointed at my head a minute ago too. Phew, glad that is over!
How exactly is it that I do not (and others who are vegan) think for myself? Would the LOGICAL situation not be that those who are following the STANDARD diet are the ones not thinking for themselves? Those who are doing just as the meat and dairy companies are wanting them to do, they are the ones NOT thinking for themselves. Since only less than 1% of the United States’ population is vegan, and only about 1-2% are vegetarian, that leaves…ooooh over 97% of Americans following the standard meat, dairy then maybe some veggies diet. Wow, somehow the less than 1% are so strong and powerful that they can brainwash me to eat what they eat! Wait, did they also force me to read books, go to school and to love animals? OMG, they had me since birth. Those bastards and their mass of media outlets constantly bombarding me with images of what I should be eating. Oh please, make the billboards, neon signs and commercials dictating that I am to eat at a vegan restaurant go away! I can’t take all the veggie burger advertisements any more! Wait a minute, they never advertise for veggie burgers on television. I’ve also never seen a billboard saying where the next exit for a vegan restaurant was. Holy crap, I have seen such a thing for McDonald’s, Burger King, Wendy’s, Taco Bell, KFC and the like though. OMG, could the cow whisperer be wrong? Could the meat eaters actually be the brainwashed ones? Thank my vegan bible, it is true!
My guess: this person is not very well educated, has at the very least his head up his ass, is a bigot, is a bachelor, doesn’t believe in global warming and loves fast food. What age are you giving him? Since I don’t know his age now, I am going to guess a heart attack at the ripe ol’ age of 45. Hopefully he won’t have reproduced by then.
Oh, and Mr. Dumbass, all comments of yours will be dismissed, so don’t even bother.
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